I started watching SGU, so I can comment on "Sabotage", "Pain", "Subversion", and "Incursion" 1 & 2. I'm sort of enjoying it? In a way that comes with lots of caveats and a passionate desire to write Mary Sue fic to fix obvious problems? (Communication stone body-swap permission slips with explicit releases for various activities would definitely make an appearance.)
The really weird thing about the torture in SGU is that it works, at least with Telford, and Young's all blase about it. I think maybe the point was to set up a correspondence between it working with Telford and not working with Rush, but it didn't come together at all.
Well, SG-1 canon is you can break the brainwashing, but you basically have to flatline the victim to do so. Thus, Telford. It's a strategy. (Except in Rush's body, so it doesn't make much sense to me.) I think Young's choice to cut Wray and Scott out of the loop was spectacularly stupid, but it's part of Young's pattern of poor decision-making. Rush? I got nothing. The writers want to show Kiva and the Lucian Alliance are bad guys? It's the SGU take on Everyone Breaks Eventually? IDK, it's a theme the SGU writers don't handle with tact or sensitivity, but like to pull out of the plot-box anyway.
On a marginally related note, GO PARK for telling Young "no shouting" when Team Science was working on the FTL and pulsar problems. When is Young going to realize you attract more flies with honey than vinegar.
Anyway! Awwwww AI! :)
Aww AI indeed! I'm failing to resist rereading Heinlein after your earlier comment. The change in gears, tones, etc is causing some serious genre-clash for me. (Manny on Destiny, oh my stars and garters.)
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Re: Force Over Distance
Date: 2012-08-13 12:50 am (UTC)The really weird thing about the torture in SGU is that it works, at least with Telford, and Young's all blase about it. I think maybe the point was to set up a correspondence between it working with Telford and not working with Rush, but it didn't come together at all.
Well, SG-1 canon is you can break the brainwashing, but you basically have to flatline the victim to do so. Thus, Telford. It's a strategy. (Except in Rush's body, so it doesn't make much sense to me.) I think Young's choice to cut Wray and Scott out of the loop was spectacularly stupid, but it's part of Young's pattern of poor decision-making. Rush? I got nothing. The writers want to show Kiva and the Lucian Alliance are bad guys? It's the SGU take on Everyone Breaks Eventually? IDK, it's a theme the SGU writers don't handle with tact or sensitivity, but like to pull out of the plot-box anyway.
On a marginally related note, GO PARK for telling Young "no shouting" when Team Science was working on the FTL and pulsar problems. When is Young going to realize you attract more flies with honey than vinegar.
Anyway! Awwwww AI! :)
Aww AI indeed! I'm failing to resist rereading Heinlein after your earlier comment. The change in gears, tones, etc is causing some serious genre-clash for me. (Manny on Destiny, oh my stars and garters.)